However, I think the emptiness in some fic isn't from intermediate steps are being skipped, but that they're being ignored or pre-empted by cliches.
Oh, I definitely agree. I think, as always, it's usually a bunch of factors that go into one particular problem. I think the skipping is mostly likely something that happens with a person who is new to a fandom. In wrestling, I think it's typically the appearance of certain wrestlers that draws a person, usually female, into the fandom. So, that person will playing with *that*. "He's pretty, and he's cute, let's see them get together!" Only after that, maybe she'll begin to discover the athletic side of the business, the grind-and-wear life of a wrestler, and maybe begin to *think* about that while writing fiction.
Of course, more often than not, yeah, that process of thought doesn't occur. Which is unfortunate, 'cause some fics *would* be a lot better with context than without.
when the very same idea and emotions could be expressed in unique and special to our fandom situations
*nodsnods* Definitely. Funnily enough, that reminds me of a thread of thought I had awhile ago, about how a fic may be good as a story, but ultimately fails as "fanfic" because it doesn't fulfill the requirements of fitting into canon.
Your story with Jericho and Bischoff is a perfect example of that.
Yay, thanks! =D And I liked that your "Wow and Flutter" mentioned people on different brands, house shows, and named actual cities. While the action ultimately takes place inside the dreaded hotel room of blandness, you laid groundwork for it NOT to be bland and anonymous. A little context goes a long way. Though, I think we've both talked about wariness of setting these details so clearly, because they become outdated very quickly. Edge is no longer on Smackdown, and Lance is basically gone from TV entirely. In a little while, Lance would go from little known to totally obscure to the casual fan.
It's just my opinion that the good stuff gains x10 power from context, and context usually means canon.
Oh for sure. *nods*
"Dad, I'd like you to meet the new boy in school. He's name is Rhyno. He's Test's cousin, and lives next door to A-Train. Is it okay if we go hang out at Undertaker's house?"
*LAUGHS* Yeah, there's definitely that, too. Which is why occasionally I have to resort to using real names, even though I hate doing that.
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Date: 2004-06-07 10:02 pm (UTC)Oh, I definitely agree. I think, as always, it's usually a bunch of factors that go into one particular problem. I think the skipping is mostly likely something that happens with a person who is new to a fandom. In wrestling, I think it's typically the appearance of certain wrestlers that draws a person, usually female, into the fandom. So, that person will playing with *that*. "He's pretty, and he's cute, let's see them get together!" Only after that, maybe she'll begin to discover the athletic side of the business, the grind-and-wear life of a wrestler, and maybe begin to *think* about that while writing fiction.
Of course, more often than not, yeah, that process of thought doesn't occur. Which is unfortunate, 'cause some fics *would* be a lot better with context than without.
when the very same idea and emotions could be expressed in unique and special to our fandom situations
*nodsnods* Definitely. Funnily enough, that reminds me of a thread of thought I had awhile ago, about how a fic may be good as a story, but ultimately fails as "fanfic" because it doesn't fulfill the requirements of fitting into canon.
Your story with Jericho and Bischoff is a perfect example of that.
Yay, thanks! =D And I liked that your "Wow and Flutter" mentioned people on different brands, house shows, and named actual cities. While the action ultimately takes place inside the dreaded hotel room of blandness, you laid groundwork for it NOT to be bland and anonymous. A little context goes a long way. Though, I think we've both talked about wariness of setting these details so clearly, because they become outdated very quickly. Edge is no longer on Smackdown, and Lance is basically gone from TV entirely. In a little while, Lance would go from little known to totally obscure to the casual fan.
It's just my opinion that the good stuff gains x10 power from context, and context usually means canon.
Oh for sure. *nods*
"Dad, I'd like you to meet the new boy in school. He's name is Rhyno. He's Test's cousin, and lives next door to A-Train. Is it okay if we go hang out at Undertaker's house?"
*LAUGHS* Yeah, there's definitely that, too. Which is why occasionally I have to resort to using real names, even though I hate doing that.