Nick/Satan: I admit I was disappointed right off the bat because when I had mentioned I was anxious to see who was going to be playing the devil, my friend was like Oh.It's.Good. And while I recognized the actor, I really couldn't place him. His epicness is lost on me, I guess.
I agree the seduction didn't need to be longer. Let's get this apocalypse on the road! But, since it's just a throw away character either it should have been gut-wrenching (instead of way too easy, fan-ficcy dead baby) or it should have been done in a quick cut. Guy entering house with spooky gate; guy looking smug and devilish, leaving house, smirking and snapping his fingers. I think not knowing what they guy had be promised/bullied with would have been more involving.
The fangirl stuff. It's bullying. Fandom doesn't have much of a traditional defense, and the only true recourse is to stop watching. Either way, you lose. Stay and be mocked, or leave and miss out. Luckily, I've been in wrestling fandom so long, I'm used to the mocking.
What you said about Kripke=fanfic writer is true. Dean and Sam are MarySues. Self-inserts of obvious, sometimes laughable degrees. You know Kripke listens to what Dean listens to, thinks that car is awesome, etc. It gets very tiring to be reminded that male fantasies no matter how bald or obvious are okay, and that female fantasies deserve mocking.
I don't see how the Sam&Dean pairing is any different from the Dahm Triplets posing together in Playboy. Guys joke about wanting to nail twins all the time, and you know they're expecting twin on twin in the scenario. And this is coming from someone who has a v. low opinion of incest fic.
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I agree the seduction didn't need to be longer. Let's get this apocalypse on the road! But, since it's just a throw away character either it should have been gut-wrenching (instead of way too easy, fan-ficcy dead baby) or it should have been done in a quick cut. Guy entering house with spooky gate; guy looking smug and devilish, leaving house, smirking and snapping his fingers. I think not knowing what they guy had be promised/bullied with would have been more involving.
The fangirl stuff. It's bullying. Fandom doesn't have much of a traditional defense, and the only true recourse is to stop watching. Either way, you lose. Stay and be mocked, or leave and miss out. Luckily, I've been in wrestling fandom so long, I'm used to the mocking.
What you said about Kripke=fanfic writer is true. Dean and Sam are MarySues. Self-inserts of obvious, sometimes laughable degrees. You know Kripke listens to what Dean listens to, thinks that car is awesome, etc. It gets very tiring to be reminded that male fantasies no matter how bald or obvious are okay, and that female fantasies deserve mocking.
I don't see how the Sam&Dean pairing is any different from the Dahm Triplets posing together in Playboy. Guys joke about wanting to nail twins all the time, and you know they're expecting twin on twin in the scenario. And this is coming from someone who has a v. low opinion of incest fic.